February 1, 2010 by Robin Dickinson | 222 views | Comments (26)
Letting go of perfectionism

Notes:
The inspiration for this post came from the plethora of conversations I’ve had recently with people who have been struggling with some degree of perfectionism. Let’s talk about it.
Your thoughts…
Do you struggle with perfectionism? How do you handle it?
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February 2, 2010 at 7:19 am |
Yes this is me. I am a perfectionist.
I handle it by keeping my eyes on the what the outcome should be. If my outcome is to deliver A, I continually ask myself how said task is delivering A.
February 2, 2010 at 8:09 am |
Thanks, Scott. So, perfectionism isn’t necessarily a negative state. In your experience, are their other situations where it works positively?
Best, Robin
February 2, 2010 at 8:31 am |
The thrust of perfectionism – which is OBSESSION – can be very, very useful.
Obsession helps me learn new things very quickly – bc I obsess about them. I have therefore learnt how to turn my obsession onto tasks when I know I need to get them done.
Very helpful.
February 2, 2010 at 9:33 am |
Perfectionism can be the enemy of actually finishing something and releasing it to the public. In a way, it’s the enemy of velocity… which can be a problem when speed is of the essence (being first to market, making a deadline, etc.).
I worked with design engineers years ago who absolutely could not release a product until it was “perfect.” Fifteen years after the start of the project, it was still a work in progress. There comes a point when you have to accept that perfection can come later. That perfection is a work in progress. That it’s okay to release a v.1.0 today and work on v.1.1, v.1.2, etc. later.
Perfection as a process only works when it doesn’t become an obstacle… or an excuse.
February 3, 2010 at 6:12 am |
Thanks, Olivier. It’s wonderful to have your input to this topic.
You got me thinking: High velocity perfectionism?
In your opinion, is there a practical way to harness the beneficial elements of the Design Engineer’s need for perfectionism and still meet agreed development milestones i.e. capture the best of both worlds?
Best, Robin
PS: I hope we get the chance to meet at Like Minds some time. I won’t be attending this month, but plan to come to the next.
February 2, 2010 at 9:35 am |
Personally, I draw a distinction between perfectionism and pursuing excellence. Scott, you seem to be looking at perfectionism from the viewpoint of pursuing excellence.
Usually when I’ve seen people struggling with perfectionism, though, they haven’t been looking at how to deliver a positive result; they’ve been looking at how to achieve a result that they THINK is expected of them. Whether it’s positive or not usually plays no role in their thinking.
I see perfectionism as being fear based rather than results based. I lay out the distinctions I see in a blog post I did about six months back where I highlight a number of those distinctions.
Here it is if you’d like to see it. http://www.onestopwebsupport.com/weblog/2009/07/difference-between-perfectionism-and.html
I’ve since come up with a lot more distinctions since then, but those should give you an idea of what difference I see between what most people think of as perfectionism and the positive aspects that come from pursuing excellence.
February 3, 2010 at 7:51 am |
Thanks, Jeff. I really appreciate your view and your link!
Building on your point and the question I posed to Olivier…
Do you think there’s a positive ‘form’ of perfectionism that helps us pursue excellence? i.e. a non-fear based drive to seek and produce perfection – the ultimate output.
For example, I know I have strong perfectionist tendencies, but never confuse that with the need to deliver timely outputs, nor confuse it with my self of self-worth.
But the internal drive to keep improving something until it is faultless remains inside as a source of creative stimulation – kind of like the pre-pearl sand grain in the oyster.
Best, Robin
February 2, 2010 at 9:36 am |
I would always prefer for everything to be perfect. Unfortunately, I’m also a pragmatist as well. I find the main struggle for me is judging the right balance between the two. It’s probably best to explain this from a business and personal perspective.
I’ve always been critical of ‘good enough’ solutions. In fact, sometimes the Australian market appears that way to me. Instead of truly innovating or delivering new solutions, we get / take what’s already been conceived, often taking the same steps and time frames that other markets have taken much earlier. I see this as ‘good enough’ and not making improvements to something that we’ve already seen in practice. Foxtel would be my main example to illustrate this point.
Personally, I hate to settle for ‘good enough’. However, sometimes time, money or choice pressures limit me to doing so. That doesn’t make it right and sometimes it’s an excuse, but having a goal of perfectionism and falling short is much better than a goal of ‘good enough’ and not quite achieveing it.
Probably summed up by the over-used phrase, “shoot for the stars and you might still hit the moon.”
February 3, 2010 at 7:58 am |
That’s a really good point, Andy – “the main struggle for me is judging the right balance between the two.”
What did you think of Jeff’s point about the difference between perfection and excellence?
Does your ‘pursuit of perfection’ serve you e.g. make you more creative, more innovative?
Keep shooting for the stars – and I will too.
Best, Robin
February 2, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
In psychological terms there are clear examples of how perfectionism can work for and against us. As Scott quite rightly points out; keeping one’s eyes on outcome is a good way of harnessing its power.
Olivier cites the example of design engineers frozen within the confines of perfectionism.
In art there has always been a struggle between perfectionism and free expression. Classical versus impressionism, for example. Chaplin was obsessed with the ‘perfect shot’. Ansel Adams perfectionism regarding his technical mastery of the camera resulted in some of the most evocative landscape photographs ever taken.
But it is almost impossible so separate the word obsession from perfectionism. Obsession seems to be a different ball game entirely. Scott states he uses his obsession in a positive way; something true for most of us. However there is a darker side to perfectionism and the inherent obsessive traits it can produce.
Via Making Me (www.makingmemagazine.com) we work with people whose perfectionism has resulted in all kinds of dangerous behaviours; anorexia and bulimia are good examples. Perfectionism and its application to body image is a major problem in our societies and one of the reasons why we made it policy to promote ourselves collectively – but that’s a longer discussion.
I think what’s clear is that unchecked; perfectionism is not only dangerous, but debilitating. Channelling it positively is essential and if one has the correct personal skills to do this, then it’s a very powerful tool. If we don’t, then perfectionism can lead to terrible consequences.
The obsession with perfectionism has resulted in some of the most horrific human acts throughout history as well as some of the most amazing discoveries and artwork. What does this tell us? Once again, there are no absolutes.
Best wishes,
Luke.
February 3, 2010 at 7:59 pm |
Very nice inputs, Luke. You’ve lifted the lid off my thinking.
At the risk of sliding onto some less robust ice…
Is nature obsessed with perfection? Is ‘fittest’ synonymous with ‘perfect’ in the context of survival?
Some may argue that survival is an obsession. Would it matter if we as a species became less obsessed about our survival – especially as we edge closer to manifesting real end-game scenarios?
And finally…
Is this in-fact the time for absolutes?
Very much looking forward to our conversation on skype, Luke.
Best, Robin
February 2, 2010 at 9:14 pm |
I wouldn’t say I struggle with perfectionism, but the discussion has made me realize that I “cope” by re-defining what is perfect in order to meet a deadline.
Example:
If I am aiming to have a 3-course dinner on the table for guests at 7pm, and at 6:30pm I have only really prepared 2-courses, then I will run with 2-courses for 7pm (rather than deliver 3-courses at 7:25pm).
My view of perfectionism is therefore about ‘delivery on time’.
By contrast, in the same scenario, my wife will opt for the 3-courses delivered late.
Her view of perfectionism is ‘delivery in full’
Robert
February 3, 2010 at 8:06 pm |
“Delivery on time” vs. “Delivery in full” is a super distinction, Robert.
Thanks for dropping by and participating.
Are there any situations where you would find yourself opting for perfection and ‘delivery in full’? If so, what makes the difference?
Best to you, Robin
February 3, 2010 at 8:17 am |
Having read Jeff’s discussion on perfectionism vs. pursuit of excellence, I fit into the excellence side of the definitions quite easily.
I can fall back to a 2-course dinner without beating myself up, and then for the next occasion I would change my approach – I would simply begin the preparations earlier so that 3-courses were then comfortably delivered on time.
Cheers, R
February 3, 2010 at 8:07 pm |
Yes, Jeff’s input has also added real value to this discussion.
Robin
February 3, 2010 at 9:04 am |
Really good discussion here! Robin, in response to your question to me, I think you hit the matter on the head by mentioning self-worth.
To me, the dark side of perfectionism is fear based. I see it used as an excuse for procrastination: “Oh, I can’t let anyone see this until it’s perfect.” Or I see it used to justify inaction: “I just can’t get this perfect, so I won’t even try.” Or I see it used as Luke described, as the foundation for self-destructive behaviors: “If I don’t get this perfect, people won’t accept me.”
All of those are based on fear of rejection. The kind of good perfectionism you describe focuses not on self, but on results. Perfectionism, in its good sense, has to be ready to accept results that, ironically, are less than perfect.
Robert’s dinner preparation adjusts to reality by accepting fewer courses than were originally planned. His wife’s dinner preparation adjusts to reality by accepting a delay in serving time. In both cases, they focus on making the end RESULTS as good as they can.
And I think they likely would take away from the experience some ideas of how to improve the next time. They enjoy what they accomplished and use the setbacks to make the next time even better.
The dark side of perfectionism would try to present the full three courses at the appointed time. That kind of perfectionist considers nothing more than the fear of losing face if everything is not exactly as planned.
Unfortunately, that leads to shoddy work. The dinner gets done poorly and probably a little late anyway. Then the cook spends the whole meal either apologizing or eying the guests for any sign of displeasure.
The dark type of perfectionist finds no enjoyment in what they accomplished and learns nothing that can lead to future improvement because they are totally focused on themselves.
I think the key to good perfectionism is, as you said, Robin, to focus on the obtaining the best results possible, even if they’re not “perfect” this time around. Good perfectionism can view any experience as part of a learning process that leads to ever improving results.
A fine line exists between the two. What separates Chaplin, for example, from a hack director who spends endless hours wasting everybody else’s time in search for a “perfect” shot that doesn’t exist? I’ve known of directors who felt convinced that they were showing creative genius by actions that were nothing more than wasting everybody’s time.
Striving for perfection in a good way has to be divorced from self-worth. It has to focus on results. And it has to be willing to see each effort as a step on the journey to perfection instead of as this one effort as needing to lead to the final destination. Seeking perfection has to be a habit, not a one-time shot.
February 3, 2010 at 8:24 pm |
Wonderful build, Jeff.
So is perfection in the eye of the beholder (or obsessor)?
Luke mentioned body image, you’ve both discussed the Chaplin film situation, and Olivier spoke of the Design Engineers. A range of examples where perfection is contextually dependent on whose making the judgment.
Building on Robert’s dinner scenario, a two-course dinner served on-time is either perfect for the given resources or imperfect for the original objective.
So, not to push the culinary metaphor too far, one person’s magnificent obsession with perfection is another person’s never-ending search for excellence.
The key learning for me out of this discussion so far is to be careful about how personally attached one becomes to perfection as an outcome.
Thanks for your return contribution, Jeff. You’ve really raised a lot of great points.
Just finally, I would be fascinated by your response to the question I posed to Luke’s comment above:
“Is nature obsessed with perfection? Is ‘fittest’ synonymous with ‘perfect’ in the context of survival?”
Best, Robin
February 3, 2010 at 9:41 pm |
Robin asked: “Are there any situations where you would find yourself opting for perfection and ‘delivery in full’? If so, what makes the difference?”
I always begin by planning for a perfect (=excellent) outcome delivered in full, but I allow myself to reframe as the deadline draws near.
Example 1: last year I organised a school reunion – gave myself 8 months to plan. It was a perfect night – due to giving myself a generous amount of time for the planning.
Example 2: I intended to collate schoolday memories, aiming for 10 pages which I was going to photocopy, staple and hand out on the night. As it happened, the stories coming in grew to 30 pages, then 70, then 100, then 150. I decided to publish a proper book, but I would miss the deadline. So I reframed it: I decided that a book which included photos taken on the Reunion night would make for a “more perfect” outcome, and give me permission to deliver to a new deadline – Christmas. It ended up at 234 pages and included 330 photos.
I aim high, work hard, plan well, accept personal responsibility for the outcome – but no-one describes me as obsessive or fanatical. Oh, and I have a great sense of humour and can laugh at myself if things go off the rails!
Cheers, R
February 5, 2010 at 8:54 pm |
That’s an excellent example, Robert. One that we can all learn from. I appreciate your continued, pragmatic input into this discussion. Thank you.
PS: love your coda on having a great sense of humour. Excellent!
Best, Robin
February 4, 2010 at 2:35 am |
“‘Is nature obsessed with perfection? Is “fittest” synonymous with “perfect” in the context of survival?’”
Interesting question. From my perspective, “bad” perfectionism starts from seeking a goal that is likely unattainable. It then refuses to adapt to the situation.
Most people here seem to define “good” perfectionism as a quest for positive results. That quest remains flexible in pursuit of whatever positive results best fit the situation.
In that regard, I see “survival” as falling into the “good” perfectionism. Its whole approach involves seeking flexible end results instead of preconceived ones that might turn out to be totally unsuitable for the actual situation as it develops.
“Survival” succeeds because it remains flexible. “Survival” succeeds because each result is a steppingstone to ongoing improvement instead of a futile attempt to reach a final destination.
February 5, 2010 at 9:05 pm |
Thanks, Jeff. Rich input.
So is the Olympian’s obsession with attaining a flawless 10/10 performance in gymnastics an example of positive or negative perfection?
In our culture, the system seems geared to deliver the highest applause and greatest accolades to the flawless execution – from education, to body image, to sport. The imperfect is relegated to second place.
Hence my interest in Nature’s gifting survival to the most flawless – ‘fittest’ – execution.
Well done, Jeff.
Best to you, Robin
February 5, 2010 at 3:31 pm |
I don’t think we can accurately say nature is obsessed with perfection because I believe that chaos theory is at the centre of a series of random acts that lead to evolutionary adaptation. There isn’t a ‘perfect’ solution to survival (we’d go into population dynamics here but hey, this could run!
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Just to pick up on the pursuit of excellence aspect to this discussion. This got me thinking. If perfectionism is linked to self-imposed targets or even ‘imposed’ expectations, then it’s entirely arbitrary. Shift those targets and expectations and one is immediately faced with perfectionism as a misnomer
If, however, it’s linked to mathematics then it can be absolutely measured. For example, the manufacture of an aircraft part. There is a specification based on a mathematical formula. In this case we couldn’t re-define the goal for obvious reasons.
Perhaps the latter could be an example of obsessive perfectionism being a good thing!
Also looking forward to connecting on Skype soon.
February 5, 2010 at 9:13 pm |
Thanks, Luke. No perfect fractals in chaos, huh?
Thanks for your continued contribution. You’ve enriched the discussion.
I’m still thinking through your mathematical distinction. Great to get the brain cells working.
Can’t wait for our skype chat.
Best, Robin
February 6, 2010 at 1:30 am |
Interesting direction this is going with getting into the idea of striving to conform to an external, preestablished standard, such as with a gymnast or a machinist of precision equipment.
My main area of interest in the subject has always been with the way the individual approaches the task at hand.
For example, neither the gymnast nor the machinist who approaches the task with an attitude of “bad” perfectionism will get very far. They will focus on fear of mistakes that diverge from the external standard they are trying to match. And in focusing on possible mistakes, they will make them.
The outstanding gymnast or machinist, on the other hand, succeeds because they focus on getting the results rather than on their fear that they won’t get the results expected of them. That frees them to excel, even though the situation doesn’t allow them the flexibility to redefine what is acceptable.
You might say that the victim of “bad” perfectionistic thinking replaces the preestablished standard with their own, even higher standard. Agonizing over every minor glitch along the way overrules any more constructive approaches that would allow them to fix the current effort and improve future results. They settle for a dead end instead of a deeper exploration.
The “bad perfectionist” gymnast gives up before they can achieve their actual potential because they get discouraged over not being “perfect” immediately. The “bad perfectionist” machinist repeats mistakes and eventually gets fired because they’re too busy trying to make excuses for mistakes rather than learning from them.
Meanwhile, “good perfectionist” gymnasts and machinists become masters of their crafts because they focus on what it takes to excel rather than focusing on their mistakes.
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