February 26, 2010 by Robin Dickinson | 77 views | Comments (11)
Heading off to the Tweet-up

Notes:
This post is stimulated by the much mooted idea that social media and the ‘real-life’ off-shoots such as Tweet-ups (social networking meetings initiated by Twitter users), can make money. What do you think – fact or fantasy? What’s your experience been so far?
Let’s discuss this in the comments below.
Your thoughts…
How do you make money from social media?
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11 Responses to this post
February 26, 2010 at 5:09 pm |
A great question Robin.
I can only speak from the experiences we’ve had in the area of journalism, filmmaking, photography and creative writing and the people we work with, and alongside.
We view social media as a conduit. I can give some examples in all of the above and how it works for us.
In journalism it creates a medium to disseminate copy, articles, develop relationships with editors, publications, organisations and readers. This is accomplished mainly via awareness and presence online. We’ve been able to rapidly convey ideas. This, in turn, leads to opportunity to sell. Most importantly, it’s opened the global market and given journalists direct access to many more outlets (though you wouldn’t think so if you listen to the doom and gloom stories).
In filmmaking, there are so many opportunities for entrepreneurs to make money. Creating fan bases is one that springs to mind. We can speak directly to the audience. There is inclusivity, transparency and reciprocity. The main advantage that SM has is that it helps to build up loyalty and to sell the DVD, merchandising, etc. associated with any given film project.
Perhaps the most revolutionary area is that social media is a vehicle for securing investors in a film project. Something that was a long, laborious process of treading the conventional networking circuit (and something not for the faint-hearted). It’s still a skill, but there’s a global footprint 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
In photography, it’s another quick and rapid method of interacting with potential customers via a clear and concise loyalty base. For example, if a potential client can see that a photographer’s work is not only good, but popular, and that they have a fan base – then they’ll want to hire. There’s a benefit.
For authors and publishing there is another huge shift in the business of selling, not only the creative writing, but oneself. The same principles apply as in the earlier examples. But it’s even more exciting insomuch that authors can now, via a social media presence and loyalty, sell directly. eBook self-publishing is no longer a vanity issue. It’s a viable business. I could give so many great examples of how this is working but I’m aware I’m hogging the airwaves here.
On the subject of tweetups: we tend to avoid formal tweetups and work closely with individuals and organisations, production companies etc that we’ve connected with via social media. It works well for us. I’m not knocking other approaches. It all depends on what area of business you’re in and what, ultimately, you’re selling.
Best wishes
February 27, 2010 at 7:22 pm |
This is excellent Luke. Thank you. It’s really useful to see specific examples of how SM is being used.
In your opinion, given the hours invested to start and maintain SM channels, what’s your opinion on cold, hard profitability? All things being equal, how long does it take to a) break even and b) achieve some kind of payback? Any ideas?
Brilliant input!
Best, Robin
February 26, 2010 at 8:10 pm |
That’s a very insightful summary from Luke. Almost invoicable, ironically, given the topic.
I agree that social media is a conduit – but only as useful as the entrepreneurial skills needed to leverage it. From a publisher/author point of view, yes SM provides the opportunity for direct sale and promotion, but most authors are not equipped to make this work. To date, publicity departments in big publishing houses still hold the cat o nine tails in this game. Offline media can create a spike in online media more quickly than the reverse by a factor of about 100:1. Interestingly, Twitter is used as a conduit for mechanical advertising blabber by most publishing houses, but this will develop I think with time. Personally, I’m yet to turn a dollar online, but I do see that this will change quickly, and if I’m not here for that moment, I’ll miss a great deal.
February 27, 2010 at 7:26 pm |
Thanks, Ben.
How heavily are the big publishers investing into SM? Do you see it increasing?
I agree that Luke’s comment is really valuable. Yours also. It’s excellent to get the publisher/author view.
Best, Robin
February 26, 2010 at 10:40 pm |
For my b2b clients using social media, it’s a mixed bag so far. For the most part, blogging and Twitter are the most effective, generating leads and establishing credibility. Lead generation from social media happens directly and indirectly – directly when people click through on Tweets, Facebook postings, etc., and indirectly because of the SEO effects of blogging. A well written and executed blog boosts search visibility and allows a smaller firm to outperform very big ones.
February 27, 2010 at 7:30 pm |
Thanks, Brad. Appreciate your input.
Do you have any thoughts on ROI, especially with regards to expectations around time horizons?
I always get the feeling that services like Twitter are just coping and poised to implode. So how do we keep our SM presence ‘portable’ in a way that builds across the platforms such as Twitter – that will come and go – thus protecting our investment?
Best, Robin
February 27, 2010 at 1:23 pm |
My focus has been on building a blog style site where I can demonstrate what I know and make mention of some of the more interesting things that I discover along the way. The main goal of my site is to help establish my credibility.
I need to sharpen the focus of my site and do more to generate comments and feedback but so far I’m quite happy with it.
I use Twitter to put me in touch with others in my field as well as to keep up to date with what is happening locally.
In terms of generating money, Twitter has allowed me to grow a small network which has in turn supplied me with a handful of jobs that I would otherwise have missed.
My site has generated a few leads which have also turned into paying jobs.
It’s small steps at the moment but so far my experience with Twitter in particular has been very successful.
February 27, 2010 at 7:39 pm |
Thanks, Mark. I really appreciate your input.
I’m curious – do you have any idea how many hours you’ve invested into your blog and Twitter, and whether the work that these things have generated has in-fact been profitable?
If you took that time and ‘worked the phones’, would it have been more profitable? Be interested in your thoughts.
Thanks, Mark.
Best to you, Robin
February 27, 2010 at 8:08 pm |
Hi Robin,
Good question.
I needed to build up a site one way or the other and hooking into Twitter just seemed like a natural extension of that. I follow both John and yourself and I like the meaningful way that you guys use Twitter.
In fact Twitter helped me make contact with John when he was having a few problems with his site some weeks ago and as a result he is actually trialling a server monitoring service that I’m developing with a colleague. That’s been very useful to us and it’s an opportunity that I would have missed had I not been using Twitter.
I had another opportunity just this week too when the owner of a high profile local design company announced that ‘it is good to be working with company X again’. As it happened I had just put together a design concept for company X’s website, presented it to them, followed up with a phone call but it never went anywhere.
When I saw the tweet from the local design firm I made contact with them, showed them the concept I had put together. They were impressed and now we’re hooking up for coffee and a chat. Perhaps they can use a freelancer (fingers crossed).
In terms of my day to day web design business, if I had hit the phones I probably could have done equally as well as Twitter. I would have still needed something to show people so the site is a must have (and a work in progress while I figure out my direction).
Twitter has landed me a few jobs but it’s the opportunities and the immediacy which I find very intriguing.
That hasn’t really answered your question at all but it is perhaps a bit more of an insight into my experience with Twitter.
All the best and keep up the great work.
February 27, 2010 at 8:18 pm |
These are excellent details, Mark. Thanks for responding.
Moving forward, it would be really useful to track hours verses results with social media. Hopefully, some clever programmer is already working on it.
I know it’s early days in the evolution of social media, but I would hate it to turn out to be one big distraction (as intriguing and entertaining as it is) from the real, time-worn task of business development.
Let’s compare notes as we both progress.
Good on you, Mark. You’re a winner!
Very best, Robin
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